So, in a nation of 35 million people, some of them are bad people.

This is not news.

As a person who is sexually and romantically and socially attracted to minors – wait, put down your pitchforks ladies – may I just say something?

Most of us – pedophiles, or hebephiles, or ephebophiles – aren’t evil.

And we wish nobody any harm, or be coercive or manipulative – what have you.

And I am sorry if it upsets you that I say this, but I truly believe it is usefull to mention it.

Let me put a point on it: People who abuse others, have more problems than being attracted to them. They are just bad apples, that’s it.

So if I read this right, 3-4 kids a year are victims of the sort of crime on which this survey focuses. Obviously, no one wants even one child a year victimized in this (or any other) way, but in a nation of 30 million people, these numbers are small. I think perspective is key.

To @Theresa the cunt-brain, no I don’t want people who have been born into the wrong gender, to be forced to use whichever lavatory YOUR shitty brain demands of them, I want them to have the freedom of choice to make their own decisions.

And furthermore, for your general information and that of shitty people like you, yes I have friends who have been born into the wrong gender. XXY-chimeras, Klein-Field-syndroms, victims of abuse and so on and so forth.

In brief, please go fuck yourself.

Why on earth would you presume improper behaviour from others (and does that say anything about you)?

Let me give you a page from my book, lady.

I am a forty-ish male, and yes I have had thoughts about doing wrong towards others, because sexual attraction is kind of powerfull and yes unfortunately it messes with your mind.

But, I have never done anything wrong. Why?
Because guess what, most people are _nice_.

And I think you should reflect upon that, because the other alternative is convincing people that they can be bad, when they don’t have to be.

Can we please ban the guy who speaks for pedophiles and uses horrendous language? Thanks.

I think the training of a child should be when”and how” to “go to bat” for an adult who is falsely accused.
One man (named Paul)aged about 67-in Canada, tells me this story.
This man belonged to a Boys” Club in Penticton(a small city near Vancouver.) One “brat” falsely accused the leader of obscene behavior
The police were called.
Paul(and the other boys) TRIED and TRIED and TRIED to convince the police-that the boy was “making it up.”
But the police did not listen to the boys(In those days, children were treated very foolishly and condescendingly They were expected to be “seen and not heard.”
The leader’s reputation was so tarnished that he had to “get out of town” (In those days, Penticton was a small town-of only about 10,000. Gossip travels quickly in a small town where everybody knows everybody.)
We have paid a high price-for the old rule “Childfren were to be seen and not heard.”

-There should be a law, where a child(acting in good faith) “goes to bat”-if he feels that an adult-or an older child needs protection.
The child should be told that any information thagt he gives to a public servant-“policeman, parents, or a teacher should be “privileged information.”

I would like to promote family dances.
In Vancouver, we used to have family dances-where childless adults-were welcomed(The reason it went defunct was that no one would volunteer to organize it,.
Some parents would have misgivings-about childless adults participating.
When I was 11-in 1960- I belonged to a square dance group. I was mostly children and teens-but there were a few adults.
My parents had no misgivings-about adults’ participation in the square dance group.

Slow news day story.

Crime rates continue to fall. But crime sells. So pretend there is crime when there isn’t any.
Hype, spin and mind control.
Selling news is more important than telling the truth.
So what else is new?

Also: https://masterchan.org/candy/12

Trolin, trollin, trollin, we’ve got somebody trollin.

Well Lenore does lean on the libertarian side of things, so I guess why she is not very quick with a banhammer.

“I shouldn’t have worry about improper behavior from the other sex in the bathroom.”

You shouldn’t have to worry about improper behavior from EITHER sex in the bathroom.

Transgendered people have been using the bathroom that fits their outward presentation, but not their anatomy, for decades. Approximately how often have you been inconvenienced by this?

Obviously the employees of the Canadian Centre for Child Protection benefit from a study like this. They must be looking for a funding increase.

They remind me of the Center for Missing and Exploited Children. My friend’s two daughters were listed on their site for years, even though they were not missing and they were not being exploited. He was awarded sole custody and took them away from an abusive mother. As a matter of fact I am attending one’s wedding next month.

@Vicky: They are a newspaper company. And we all know newspapers are becoming the way of dinosaurs. So they have to pump up sales some how. No different than the “click and bait” tactics of online media, and social media sites. Whatever, and however they can make profit, at the cost of everything and everyone else. Sometimes, capitalism sucks when greed is the motivator.

Alexander

Tell you what, call a woman that in my presence and you will find out what tough really is.

Little man I have never had a problem with tuning up punks like him and never will. Some people don’t have a problem with confrontation even in a violent form.

“”Fifty-five per cent of offenders had a prior criminal record and 29 per cent of those were convicted of a prior violent or sexual offence against a child.”
And later says:
“55 per cent of offenders had a criminal record when the offence was committed. At least 33 per cent of those had committed a violent or sexual offence against a child.”
Which is it, I wonder?”

There’s a subtle difference between the two, so they could both be right. The first was “were convicted”, and the second one says “had committed”. I’d expect that second number to be a bit higher. Sometimes there’s no conviction because of evidentiary issues, or the statute of limitations has run, or the charges are plea-bargained away.

The vast majority of children who die of violence are victims of their own parents’ abuse or neglect.

It has been mentioned a couple of times in here, but I think it bears saying and stressing again. The actual numbers of those who commit those horrible acts against children AND are strangers in Canada is tiny: 3 or 4 per year, out of a total population of about 30 million.
I don’t know the number of total former felons or people who have gone to jail in the past for a violent crime against a child in Canada. We can, however, make a sensible prediction that the 3 or 4 such crimes per year represent a very tiny percentage of the totals of both those groups.
So, why use the specified percentages? Because it is so much more easy to panic people if you cherry-pick the information and how it is presented. And a panicked populace is much easier to persuade that “something must be done!”

I am glad that you can treat the other sex with respect but some people never get that. Some people treat others like the ones in story treat others. That is why I’m not happy about boys in the girls room.

Because I don’t think boys should be in the same bathroom as girls? Try seeing from other people view.

If they’s were whining about something else besides the bathroom I be glad to support them but the bathroom they were given isn’t enough! Maybe I am silly but I was raise to boy parts means you are not a girl. Now if you were one those rare folks born to both I would assume the doctors chose wrong and you will just have to fix it and meantime live with what you got.. Life not fair get over it!

“Life not fair get over it!”

Or, and this is just a suggestion, mind you… perhaps YOU should get over it?

(By “it”, I mean the fact that transgendered girls are girls.)
Maybe consider that they already suffer much more than you do, and offer a bit of empathy for a fellow human being. And ABSOLUTELY do this before lecturing anyone else to “try seeing from someone else’s view.”)

At present, you just sound AMAZINGLY self-centered.

I was saying that boys don’t want to go to boy’s room unless forced to. And some of them don’t know what they are whether boy or girl so until they can pick should we just get rid of the sexs.

To Vaughan Evans, many thanks for your first post. I’ve urged changes along those very lines. Being falsely accused of molestation is a strong incentive to see reforms made.
As to the article–I saw the percentages bandied about fairly easily, as happens very often in this country. But, how about translating the percentages into raw, and accurate, numbers? Especially since the article referenced having to go back 50 or so years–why not do this?
Why not ask the defenders of the status quo to translate percentages of recidivism rates, more easily known as re-offense rates? I must request one qualifier be used–peer-reviewed studies!

Theresa, this is for you, but anyone else can follow along, too.

This is an exercise in empathy.

I would like you to imagine that, starting right now, and continuing on for the rest of your life, literally everyone you interact with in any way, believes that you are a man. They tell you this in every way… verbally, non-verbally, in the way they talk about you and to you. Now… you know that you are a woman. You’ve always been a woman, and you expect to always be a woman… but you can’t get anyone to agree with you. They expect you to dress like a man, act like a man, even though you know that you are not.

Bathrooms are only a small part of it, but since you’ve got to go to the bathroom every day, it’s a constant reminder. You know you belong in the ladies’, but if you don’t go to the men’s people are outraged and look at you, talk to you, and about you as if you were some kind of sexual pervert. You find yourself trying to find a time to go when there won’t be anyone there, because you just cannot shake the idea that you are in the wrong one (because you ARE!) You’ll start cutting way back on your fluid intake, just to cut down the number of times you’ll have to pee when you are in a public place.

After a while, you’ll start to adopt the dress of a man, just to fit in. You’ll try to find “men’s” hobbies that interest you, or at least that you an fake an interest in, just to feel a little bit normal. It probably won’t work, and you won’t be fooling anyone. They won’t know specifically what the problem is, but they’ll be able to tell that there is something distinctly “off” about you. You’ll feel increasingly isolated, unable to act like yourself, to BE yourself, but unable to pretend to be what everyone else expects from you, either. You’ll probably be depressed, at times bordering on suicidal, because you JUST. CANNOT. FIT. IN.

Finally, you’ll reach a point where you don’t care anymore, and you can’t live the lie. No matter how many people tell you that you are a man, you know that you are not and you’ll stop trying to be one. Nobody understands. People who don’t know you will call you a sex pervert, a child rapist, and worse. They’ll shun you, because they don’t understand you. Your only escape is at home, but probably even your own family doesn’t understand. They’ll still love you, but you know they’re always thinking “what is wrong with that boy?”

If you’re lucky, you might find a couple of friends who are open-minded enough to accept you the way you are. When you tell them that you’re a woman, they say “OK”. It’s tentative, at first, because they don’t REALLY believe it, but over time they do. They see that while it’s certainly nothing that they would choose, that anyone would choose, you actually are happy when you live as a woman (because you ARE a woman) and aren’t fighting to fit into the role society expects from you. They stop fighting it, even take your side when you are challenged.

You might even get enough people to accept that you want to live as a woman to try doing it full-time. You may or may not be able to “pass” as a woman, but most people think it’s none of their business and ignore it. (They’re right. It IS none of their business.) You’ve been avoiding men’s rooms for some time now… You know which businesses have single-occupancy bathrooms, and use those when you can, and you avoid going to public restrooms if there’s no single-occupancy bathroom available. But now… you switch. You know you are a woman on the inside. You dress, and act, maybe even look like a woman on the outside. You probably go years and years without anyone noticing, or, if they did notice, they weren’t troubled enough to say anything.

Eventually, though, it happens… you run into someone who thinks it is their business to check which bathroom you “belong” in. When they decide that you are in the “wrong” one, they make a scene, very possibly it will escalate to violence. Even some people who would never consider violence an appropriate way to settle a difference of opinion might think it’s OK, since, after all… you started it, by going into the “wrong” bathroom. (Of course, violence would be even MORE likely had you gone into the “right” bathroom, dressed as you dress now).

Now… along comes some idiot politician, who thinks it’s important to protect “potty purity”. Transgendered persons have been using the bathroom that fits the way they feel, act, and dress for decades, but suddenly it’s vitally important that they no longer do this, for reasons that seem emotional rather than rational, and are based on fear of something that might happen, rather than on what does happen.

Your only hope is that there are enough people, in important positions of government, who see things as they are rather than imagining all the parade of horribles (the children will all be raped, think of the children!) and are willing to protect your civil rights.

Do you want people to react with compassion and empathy towards you, to understand that you are who you are and you can’t help being who and what you are, and that you haven’t hurt anyone and don’t have any desire to?

Or should people react against you, because their fear all they need to put you severely at risk for harassment, beating, rape, or even murder?

I wonder what’s more fantastical: the idea that there’s a child predator at everyone’s door, or that there are roving bands of women checking on genitalia in restrooms to make sure people truly belong there.

Oh and you know what the REAL tragic part is?

The real tragedy is when shit like this: https://www.freerangekids.com/a-chilling-new-portrait-of-child-predators-or-a-craven-old-way-to-scare-us-shtless/, actually ends up causing the death of minors.

Because when you are faced with the choice between either the rest of your entire life being fucked up, or killing a minor to get away with it, guess what, some not-so-bright percentage of people, greater than zero percent, WILL chose killing the minor.

And at some point, that whole cop-retards spiel about preventative effects from harsh punishment, starts sounding like so much emptiness and useless moral panic simply to feel good about oneself from thinking “we have a problem something must be done, okay we’ve done something now let’s pretend is is working”.

Guess what Theresa, you are just plain ignorant, simple as that.

Pick up a book sometime in your life, and no darling, not the novella kind.

Here’s one on one medical ethicist’s fight to help intersex-children NOT be genitally mutilated, in America: http://alicedreger.com/gmf

Or just Wikipedia, if you are not all that much into “reading” and difficult tasks such as breathing without swallowing your own tongue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_intersex_surgery

“Last I checked the way to see boy or girl was by what it in your pants.”

Things have changed since the 1950’s. For example, we have genetic testing now.

I got upset. One of those links was meant to be this: http://intersex.shadowreport.org/public/2016-CRC-UK-NGO-Zwischengeschlecht-Intersex-IGM_v2.pdf

Yeah, see, people in america still genitally mutilate intersex children, depriving them of the right to chose themselves, to decide over their own body and their own gender identity.

“@James Pollock: Not for Klinefelter-syndrome.”

We’ve had genetic testing for Klinefelter’s Syndrome since the 1950’s. It isn’t routinely performed, unless there’s a reason to look for it, but the genetic cause of Klinefelter’s has been known for 70 years or so, and it’s readily detectable.

“It isn’t routinely performed, unless there’s a reason to look for it, but the genetic cause of Klinefelter’s has been known for 70 years or so, and it’s readily detectable.”

Yes, technically speaking, but in the real world it isn’t acknowledged so much as a medical condition that warrants support for being corrected by sex-change.

It’s one of those border-cases where the profession is slow to change, because they are reluctant to intervene when they can’t really tell either way which gender you “really” are.

And which causes people quite a bit distress, actually.

Which isn’t fair, in my opinion, people shouldn’t be judged for what they are, but only for what they chose to do.
I believe you can understand where I’m coming from, on that one.

Fortunately, Malta became the first country in the world to outlaw genital “correctional” surgery last year, which is one happy note and that the US should take note of.

Especially now that the APA has finally backed down from recommending genital mutilation of boys, as it is no longer financed over the health-care industry’s budget.

@Theresa:

Theresa, I am with you 100%. Now I don’t have the time nor the energy to get into a peeing contest over this but it is absolutely ludicrous to believe that a biological boy who wants to be a girl should be able to shower naked in the girl’s locker room in front of all the girls and vice versa! The same can be said for men in the women’s locker room and vice versa. I’m willing to compromise on the restroom although I still think it’s crazy, but an open air dressing room and shower is a whole other matter. Can we please have a little common sense here and respect the privacy of people who don’t want to experience that?

@ViciousD:

I have no problem with you commenting here but try having a little class and clean up your language a bit and quit attacking people who have a different opinion than yours. Oh, and please spare us the gory and graphic details of what you do in your spare time.

“it is absolutely ludicrous to believe that a biological boy who wants to be a girl should be able to shower naked in the girl’s locker room in front of all the girls and vice versa!”

First off, the biology isn’t as simple as you seem to imagine.

Second, there’s a simple correction for people who don’t wish to experience this. Be somewhere else.

I comes down to whether or not you have a tolerance for someone who says

*I* have a problem with this, therefore, *YOU* have to do (fill in the blank).

And whether you buy into the notion that transgender boys are REALLY boys and transgender girls are REALLY girls. (Entirely leaving out the problem of people who are intersex.)

You can REALLY see the stigma against mental illness at work in the discussion of this subject (transgender is not mental illness… it’s biology… but people don’t know that and so… since it’s all in the person’s head, it’s ok to discriminate wildly against them, right?)

Empathy. The key is empathy. You know what they call people incapable of empathy? Sociopaths.

Terrific critique as usual, Lenore!

>””We were inspired to do this difficult analysis with the idea that what one single child’s story may not be able say, the collective voice of many, could,” says Lianna McDonald, executive director of the Winnipeg-based Centre for Child Protection. “Something that was very impactful was the heinous nature of the crimes committed against the children.”

LM insists they undertook the study hoping to demonstrate 1+1 will =>2. How? We read the “heinous” nature of Allison’s murder, which is atypical even of this select minority in key respects. Who else? What “collective voice”? Who imagines an abduction and murder of any child as less than heinous?

And yes:: How is this “our” situation? How “new”? Why illustration with this horror movie mask w/ what strike me as unfair, misleading, racial overtones?

What “good impact on policies and understanding”? I see no policy proposals and none constructive occur to me. Perhaps more draconian incarceration, supervision, of prior violent sex offenders, but as you say, we have no data to put these rare events in context with cases without heinous outcomes.

How in the world did this descend into a discussion about who uses what toilet? But yes, Theresa, I agree with you entirely. .if you have a penis, use the male bathroom or shower room etc. If you have a vagina, use the female ones. How difficult can it possibly be? Must we really resort to genetic testing just to use the loos?

When I was 4 years old, my uncle robbed my house. He was a heroine addict and needed money. He raided my piggy bank. We only found out who robbed us ten years later when he confessed at rehab. His heroine addiction was so strong that in his mind, nothing else existed. Nothing would stay between him and his fix.

I question the morals of the scaremongers but I argue that that’s what we should be focusing on. The scaremongers are the supplier. What about the millions of drama junkies that demand this crap? As long as we pin all of the blame on the supplier, nothing will change.

My example of a heroine addict is extreme, however drama junkies are not blameless. We can’t say, that we are unable to resist to watch high drama news or get sucked into the clickbait.

This is about brain chemistry and why being scared is so fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetVvR5RQUs

and another. This is more about video game addiction. However drama almost the same thing. I bet that you didn’t know that Nancy Grace was a dealer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFAPy6XjP9A

If a vampire bites a zombie, will the zombie turn into a vampire or will the vampire turn into a zombie? More important, will the vampire/zombie use the mens or ladies bathroom?

The problem with anglo-saxon cultures in general, is that you tend towards the polarized, the edge-cases, the worst of the worst instead of looking at people on a spectrum.

And in addition, blame somebody who does wrong, on them being bad as if human beings existed in a vacuum and were completely 100% rational actors in control of everything at all time.

Or just because you haven’t grasped that the preventative effect of harsh punishment is limited, or more likely, that you are so ignorant and stupid that you do not care that you are actually acting counter-productively in a sociological / criminological sense, because lo and behold, punishing people is the only thing that helps get your rocks off because sex is “sinfull” and “bad” and you are told not to be perverted – which we all are – so you turn to spanking people (figuratively speaking) by way of law.

And there is something to be said for the public’s interest in hearing about sexual crimes, in that regard.
They fucking lap it up like it was fresh horseshit.
All the sordid details, all the gore, it sells like no other kind of scandal.

The recent congressional report on torture carried out by the US forces?
“Gee, we seem to have accidentally deleted that by a mistake weesa soo sorry *snicker*”.
A consensual sexual trust between a horny fifteen-year-old who knew _exactly_ what she was getting into, and a twenty-something celebrity?
The epitome of evil child molestation.

@Donald: I don’t share your sense of humor (or quite understand how that was supposed to be funny), but at the very least I can share the sentiment that bathroom-comments are silly.

To wit, this has never been an issue before, but now that AmeriKKKa is in its death-throes financially, it has suddenly become relevant to distract the masses so that they don’t question the insanity in having a presidential candidate who actually claims that the us debt ceiling being broken time and again isn’t a problem because the US can just keep printing money?

Yeah nice try, pick up Orlov’s “Societies that Collapse” some time, read it and weep as he lays out to you geopolitical balances that do NOT in any way, shape, or form, sway in the US’ favour as the petro-dollars come flying back to you and your entire cracking-fuckup starts running out of gas (literally).

China isn’t going to bail you out forever, and some changes happen so slowly you don’t notice them, and others happen so fast they don’t notice YOU.

In the meantime, keep focusing on things that you think you can do something about, instead of admitting that the real dangers are things that you are powerless to influence.

At least that’s better than thinking about how fucked up your future is and how bad it’s going to be for your kids, and popping opoids and benzo’s just to get through your inhuman minimum-wage day.

Enjoy your capitalist jesus-fundamentals republic experiment in nation-building, every country you have invaded and colonized so far has turned out fucked up, so do feel free to do the same to yours.

Shall we mention history, as well?
http://ancientpeoples.tumblr.com/post/51068743901/roman-bathroom-habits-the-romans-were-not-shy

Yeah, there is nothing sexual or offensive about going to the bathroom, and if you think perverts are going too break into your bathroom-stall or jerk off in the neighbouring stall then I suggest you pick up a hobby and try to relax a little.

Go for a walk, don’t listen so much to the weird voices in your head telling you that Elvis is coming back from Mars to save the human race and you have to kill 1000 people to be crowned the king of Denmark, and generally speaking, try to seek the advice of mental health professionals and / or go to a nudist beach and simply experience that people of all genders can get along without rampant rape breaking out simply due to you being in their presence or because you love Jeebus a weeee bit too much.

“‘When the transgender women go into the men’s room, they tend to get harassed and assaulted for doing so.’

Pretend I’m stupid. Or if you have a low opinion of me, you don’t have to pretend.
How does anyone know, if people are discreet?”

A transgender woman acts like, dresses like, and looks like a woman. When a person who acts like, dresses like, and looks like a woman, walks into the men’s room… they stand out.

On the other hand, when a transgender woman walks into the ladies’ room (with all the other people who act like, dress like, and look like women) nobody notices.

Which is why, for decades now, transgender women have been using public ladies’ rooms, and why a law that forces them to switch to the men’s room is a bad idea.

It’s not that you are stupid. It’s not even that I think you are stupid, because I do not. It’s that you have so few interactions with transgendered people, you didn’t realize what was happening when it happened. There’s a lot of that, so you’re hardly alone.

As to the article in the OP, the media has always used sensationalism to sell stories. People shouldn’t be surprised. An article about chilling child addictions and murders is going to generate a hell of a lot more traffic than an article on how safe Canada is, for the most part. The same holds true for lobbying and legislation. If you are trying to push an agenda, these kinds of stories really get people riled up and willing to call and demand that someone do something.

Honestly, I don’t care about the bathroom question. I don’t look at people in the bathroom…not even to nod. I walk straight to the stupid urinal or stall, do what I came to do, and then the sinks/dryer and out the door. Unless they were loud/obnoxious or drawing attention to themselves, I wouldn’t even notice a trans next to me. If I did, I wouldn’t acknowledge it.

If you are a company and want to sell your product, add the word ‘safety’ to it. People will pay more attention to your advert if you do. The phrase ,’Safety’ is an attention magnet.

15 years ago, finding proof of WMD in Iraq was on the political agenda. if you wanted funding for your government department or wanted a promotion then you find ways to prove that Iraq was planning a chemical attack.

If you want viewers to tune into your network, buy your newspaper, or click onto your article, then tailor it to stir up the most emotions possible.

This pattern is obvious. However I don’t believe that we are powerless slaves to our own emotions. I don’t buy into it that, “I can’t resist getting sucked into the hype. Besides I’m only one person. If I do resist then it won’t make any difference”.

The brain releases hormones such as dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and endorphins. An overuse of these can result in addiction. This is why so many people can’t get enough of reading (and talking) about social injustice, outrage, fear, and sex. This is why I compared this to a heroine addict.

This addiction to our own chemicals can result in not being able to think straight. ViciousD is a good example of this.

@ ViciousD
I’m impressed. You sound more civil than you did on your first few post where you used the words cunt brain, go fuck yourself, fucktards, and shitty condemnatory attitudes.

You hate social injustice as we all do. I’ll tell you what causes it. It comes from anyone with an attitude of, “These problems are an outrage and anyone that doesn’t agree with my way of thinking about how to solve them is an asshole! The world would be a better place if everybody saw things as I do.”

I agree with you that intolerance of others is an outrage. Your friend shouldn’t have to suffer this social injustice. However, you’re displaying the same intolerance that’s causing these problems in the first place! You are doing exactly what you hate about others. However you’re not alone. There are millions of people that are just as narrow minded. That’s why we have these problems. This is why your friend is suffering. This is why there is so much social injustice!

@ everybody else
Sorry for the language.

Or maybe I just misread you.
Anyway, this is getting kind of long in the tooth, so thanks, but I don’t really have anything more to contribute at this point. At least not anything that should be posted on a site such as this.

“the LBGT agenda subverts pretty much everything!”

If you see human decency as “subversion”, I guess that’s true.

‘Subverting’ because this article had nothing to do with the LBGT agenda and yet its become pretty much about that.

Please take your, perfectly valid and legitimate, LBGT rights concerns to a forum or topic which is actually about that subject.

Thanks

I’ll just throw this out there:
http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/complete-guide-to-dealing-with-social-justice-warriors-sjws/

This is hard to understand, but one important thing to remember when using rhetoric is that actual facts are irrelevant: “Rhetoric is all about what emotions you trigger in the other person.” This is why SJWs will shriek insults at you to try to intimidate you, insults which often make no logical sense in the context of the discussion. The basic rule for engaging with SJWs is what they try to do to you: “If you can make the other person feel small or angry, you are winning at SJW rhetoric.”

Following this convoluted “logic,” SJWs will accuse you of being mad or upset—that’s their way of claiming to win the argument.

You guys are just using empty rhetoric and pseudo-dialectical arguments and trying to belittle people who believe differently to you.

This article was about child protection and fearmongering. I guess you SJW’s know all about fearmongering.

You don’t make me feel small or offended by your comments, I know what you are up to and what you are trying to achieve. It won’t work.

There are appropriate forums for the topics you want to discuss but you have derailed a discussion in this forum to fit your own SJW agenda. Its what you do, its how you operate. You don’t really have any choice. You probably can’t even think logically or rationally about these topics that you feel so strongly about.

I am really sorry for you, it must be really hard for you living like this. Because:

It’s important to throw everything out the window you’d consider honorable or reasonable when “debating” with SJWs. In fact, Day says, “resorting to straight-up name-calling, the more ridiculous the better, is often the fastest and most efficient way to get through the conversational process with an SJW.” When they call you racist, bigot, Nazi, or sexist, hit them back twice as hard. Even resorting to calling men “creepy” or “stalker,” or women “psycho” or “ugly,” will work according to Day. Remember, the content doesn’t matter because “SJWs communicate in competitive emotion.” And don’t worry about hurting feelings or the ignoble practice of hurling insults around—SJWs do it, and they don’t care.

you are so terribly emotionally vulnerable. Thats why you think your tactics will work on other people; you imagine that they are as emotionally vulnerable as you are. So you use the same approach you fear yourself; emotional attack. And you feel so strongly, are so overwhelmed by your feelings, that you cannot use actual logic or reasoning.

My son is only 3 years old yet he is more emotionally mature than any of you SJW’s.

I pity you.

But you aren’t interested in arguments, only emotions. Your name-calling and insults demonstrate that.

I’m here because I get some useful and interesting ideas about how to raise my son right.

Why are you here?

@Steve: I’m here because I am clearly one of those guys you would be afraid of.
And, more importantly, because I have perspectives about that, that are usefull enough for you to consider that they have not been deleted.

Perhaps you did not read them, in your eagerness to spout your own opinions.

@ViciousD why would I be afraid of you? Why would you even think that? You are pitiable and very sad. I’m really genuinely sorry for you.

“Please take your, perfectly valid and legitimate, LBGT rights concerns to a forum or topic which is actually about that subject.
Thanks”

Please fold it in half 7-ways, then then shove it up whichever orifice is least pleasant for you.

Thanks.

“My son is only 3 years old yet he is more emotionally mature than any of you SJW’s.”

“But you aren’t interested in arguments, only emotions. Your name-calling and insults demonstrate that.”

Ow. Ow, ow, ow.

Oh and for everybody’s information, here’s something you can do if you are fearfull: Smart Up.

For one, give your kids mobile phones (with tracker apps) that they can carry around with them and tell them to just say that they want to take a picture of THEMSELVES if a strange man approaches them.

Why? For the simple reason that if that stranger gets riled a little, the child can then say “I’m not sure if you are safe, mister”.

I do not think a world that would be absolutely idiot-proof’ed to any five-year-olds, is a world that would be very enjoyable to adults.

I’m on the fence on this one.

I’m a believer that we need to world proof the child instead of childproof the world. However because of the way parenting has changed over the decade, (better and worse) some 4 year olds are not mature enough to cope with a zoo that was designed to where some maturity is needed. While some safety restrictions are good, it also means that parents are not allowed to expose their children to ‘life’ that would enable them to learn maturity. 4 year olds certainly can’t learn the level of maturity that 1970’s 4 year olds could obtain.

I certainly do not pin the blame on the parents or the designer of the zoo.

“SJW’s are such easy targets, they just can’t help but respond to the most meaningless drivel that triggers their fixation.”

While people like yourself, of course, refrain from meaningless drivel.

Hint: Use of the term “SJW” in any non-ironic sense gets you moved instantly to the “this is not a person whose opinions should be taken seriously list”.

Well, counterhint @James: Any person who reacts to a mere word, is somebody who probably has issues with distinguishing between their own objective and subjective opinions.

And, agendas.

“some handful of words are such that using them immidiately suggests that the person issuing them is not interested in debate, not capable of holding conflicting ideas in their head, or is so far around the bend that it’s better to not engage with them at all.”

Well – if you honestly and truly believe that, then guess what, this here semi-pedo arsehole is more tolerant than you.

I experience our exchange so far as having been amicable, but being the arsehole that I am, I’m bringing the hammer down on the notion that people should be expected to “conform” to have their voices heard.

Um, no.
In fact, the non-conformists – along with drunk people, and children – are the only ones who you may get the truth out of, if you make it a demand of people, to not use certain words, phrases, or lines of thought to be allowed to participate.

@James: You could send it to Ms. Reanna “Tara” Huskey at https://twitter.com/shewantsagreek who is currently being harassed horribly by psycho-assholes and who I stood up for and tried to help by the way.

Oh and the reason she’s being harassed? Well let’s just say some people tend to latch on to those who stand out a little, just to be bullies.

I don’t approve of bullies, or of exploitative people, or of those who harass others for no good reason beyond choice of words.

Misunderstandings do happen.
But, my argument was that choice of words are not the same as “telling somebody upfront” that they have “nothing to add”, in fact a choice of words that you disagree with, only means that – that you disagree.